International experts on the oversight of national security have welcomed Ireland鈥檚 plans for legislation on the issue, but have raised concerns about some aspects of the proposals.
They were speaking at a conference entitled 'Oversight of National Security in Ireland: Lessons from Australia and the UK', which took place last week (23 September) at the NUI Galway.
The general scheme of the includes a proposal to strengthen oversight of national security through the establishment of a new body, the Independent Examiner of Security Legislation.
The conference heard from Grant Donaldson, the Independent National Security Legislation Monitor (INSLM) for Australia, whose office reviews the operation and effectiveness of national-security and counter-terrorism laws.
He described the Irish bill as a 鈥渧ery substantial piece of law reform鈥, adding that much of the work being planned for the new examiner was similar to that of his office.
One extra function for the Irish reviewer was to provide advice to the Minister for Justice in relation to requests for information made by oversight bodies.
The bill also requires the examiner to assess whether delivery of national-security services is of 鈥渢he highest level of efficiency and effectiveness鈥, and matches international standards.
鈥淭hat is going to be a very, very significant task,鈥 Donaldson commented.
He also referred to one section of the bill that means that intelligence services will not have to produce information on an unredacted basis.
鈥淭hat is very likely to give rise to difficulties between agencies and the reviewer,鈥 Donaldson said.
In Australia, such information would have to be provided if required; the further publication of such material is then a matter for the oversight body.
David Anderson, a former UK Independent Reviewer of Terrorism Legislation, described the Government鈥檚 move to set up the new oversight role as 鈥渞adical鈥.
鈥淚t鈥檚 a really thorough and sensible scheme, which we don鈥檛 have in the UK,鈥 he told the conference.
Anderson also said that the examiner鈥檚 powers to secure information 鈥渕ight benefit from further debate鈥, but he could understand the concerns of security agencies.
He stressed the importance of having a time-limit for publication of the examiner鈥檚 reports.
Anderson also expressed concern about the power of ministers, contained in the bill, to end scrutiny of a particular law, on the advice of Taoiseach.
He also warned against excluding suitable people from the role based on perceived conflicts of interest. 鈥淎s long as it鈥檚 disclosed, I don鈥檛 think it should be an automatic bar,鈥 Anderson told attendees.
He also stressed that the person appointed to the role would need authority 鈥渋n the round鈥 with a broad range of constituencies 鈥 including with ministers, civil servants, and police. Being seen as a 鈥渃ivil-liberties person鈥 or activist could lead to the position being marginalised, Anderson warned.
He added that there were 鈥渁 lot of advantages鈥 to having someone with a legal qualification appointed, though it was not essential.
Anderson pointed out that, in his role, he had no powers to compel production or disclosure. 鈥淚鈥檓 glad that you鈥檙e getting that in Ireland,鈥 he said.
Professor Marie Breen-Smyth, who is the Independent Reviewer of Justice & Security for Northern Ireland, told the event that access to secret and sensitive information limited the kind of person who can be appointed to oversight roles.
鈥淭he independence of the role is central, as you do come under pressure,鈥 she said.
Prof Breen-Smyth also said that she would be 鈥渃oncerned鈥 if she did not have access to unredacted files.
Minister for Justice Helen McEntee told the conference that she hoped to bring the bill to the Government in November, and that she was continuing to hold discussions with interested parties.
She said that the examiner would report annually to the Taoiseach, and that these reports would be laid before the Oireachtas.
The minister stated that the new role would 鈥減romote public confidence鈥 in national-security measures.
鈥淚ntrusive powers should be used in a way that is proportionate, and only when necessary,鈥 she said, adding that increased oversight was 鈥渢he price required by the public for any new powers to counter threats鈥.
The minister warned, however, that oversight itself must be proportionate, and must have regard to the changing nature of the threats the State faced.