In an opening address to the Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice on Tuesday 18 May, Law Society representatives stated that the was a recognition of the need for reform of the judicial appointments process, which becomes more urgent with each passing year.
However, Law Society Director General Mary Keane expressed deep concern about the exclusion of the solicitor profession from the proposed Judicial Appointments Commission (JAC).
鈥淎fter 25 years of faithful service to the JAAB, we get sent outside the door on the proposed JAC,鈥 she said.
The Law Society retained substantial expertise, she said, having served on the Judicial Appointments Advisory Board (JAAB) since its establishment.
Solicitors are subject-matter experts across a broad range of areas of law, the director general added, and, as the largest branch of the legal profession, are expert users of the courts system.
The profession operates at every level of seniority, dealing with every conceivable matter before the law with first-hand experience of the impact of the courts system on the public, given their close interaction with court users.
鈥淲e don鈥檛 embrace the reduction in [JAC] numbers to nine if it means that the representatives of the practising professions are excluded,鈥 Mary Keane said.
The director general added that the bid to embrace diversity must include solicitor expertise in judicial appointments.
鈥淒iversity is being invited to the party, but inclusion is being asked to dance,鈥 the director general commented. 鈥淲e鈥檇 like to see more solicitors being asked to dance!鈥
Of 90 judicial appointments made to the superior courts from 2002 (when solicitors became eligible for appointment) to 2016, only eight were solicitors.
Mary Keane added: 鈥淒iversity is meaningless without inclusion. More diversity and inclusion would better reflect society. You can have all the diversity you want in terms of eligibility, but if people aren鈥檛 actually appointed, then diversity becomes meaningless.
鈥淲e'd like diversity and inclusion, please! And we'd like to see more solicitors and more people of different backgrounds being 鈥榓sked to dance鈥 鈥 and more reflective of society. Nowadays, one is no good without the other.鈥
Law Society President James Cahill told the Oireachtas committee that the credibility of the JAC would be greatly enhanced by 鈥渁 solid start鈥, adding that the Law Society was making its third submission on the matter, with five areas requiring further careful consideration during the drafting process.
鈥淛udicial appointments are a vital component in the proper administration of justice in the State,鈥 he said.

He listed the five areas for consideration, as follows:
The president pointed out that the provision that a practising solicitor be a member of the JAC had not been retained in the general scheme.
鈥淚t is critically important that a representative from each branch of the profession is appointed to the commission,鈥 President Cahill stressed.
Mary Keane told the Committee on Justice that it was not correct to suggest that there would be equal numbers of legal and lay members sitting on the JAC, since the JAC proposal was for equal numbers of judicial and lay members.
鈥淲e found it [the exclusion of a solicitor representative] quite extraordinary 鈥 we don鈥檛 like it one bit,鈥 she stated.
The thinking behind the exclusion was not explained to the Law Society, though a copy of the scheme was received, Keane said. 鈥淲e were astonished.鈥
In addition, the scheme of the bill provides that the Attorney General would participate in the JAC as a non-voting member.
In its submission, the Law Society continued in its long-held view that it would not be appropriate that the AG should have a dual function in the judicial appointment process 鈥 both at the JAC and at the Cabinet table.
The Law Society has previously cautioned against creating a commission that would be top-heavy in terms of senior members of the judiciary 鈥 at the expense of judicial representatives of the courts of local and limited jurisdiction.
The scheme of the bill provides that:
鈥淭hese substantial responsibilities surely raise a question as to whether the Judicial Council nominees are more likely to be senior, long-standing members of the judiciary,鈥 the Law Society President warned.
鈥淚f so, their experience of legal practice 鈥 as court users rather than as members of the judiciary 鈥 will be at a considerable remove from their present workday experience,鈥 Mr Cahill said.
The Law Society welcomed the participation of lay members on the JAC in the manner proposed, Mr Cahill continued. He added that lay members would mitigate the risk of self-replication by judicial members.
The judiciary serves all of society, and that should be reflected in the process of judicial selection, he commented.
In the Law Society鈥檚 view, the Procedures Committee could be regarded as the 鈥榚ngine room鈥 of the judicial appointments process. As part of necessary 鈥渟treamlining and transparency鈥, the proposed creation of a Procedures Committee has been welcomed by the Society.
It would be critically important to ensure that sufficient expertise would be available to the Procedures Committee, the Law Society said, to enable it to draft and deliver to the JAC comprehensive 鈥楽tatements of Procedures鈥 and 鈥楽tatements of Relevant Skills and Attributes鈥 in respect of each class of court business, and every area of law.
The expanse of that task should not be underestimated, the Society stated.
Chair of the Bar Council Maura McNally reiterated the proposed non-inclusion of either Law Society or Bar Council leaders on the JAC: 鈥淭here won鈥檛 be a barrister; there won鈥檛 be a solicitor,鈥 she commented.
That was in contrast to the , which included both the Chair of the Bar Council and the President of the Law Society on the Advisory Committee for the granting of Patents of Precedents. They had been included because of their ability to provide a more complete picture of applicant attributes, the Bar Council stated in its submission.
Law lecturer Dr David Kenny of Trinity College Dublin said it would be unusual not to have some sort of representative of the professions on such a body.
鈥淭his sort of indirect representation, by way of a judicial member, is unusual, from the schemes I am aware of,鈥 he said.
He commented, however, that the inclusion of members of eminent professional bodies might bring such a degree of 鈥渆xtra-process knowledge鈥 to the table which could create 鈥渢ransparency problems鈥.
Detailed knowledge of applicants鈥 backgrounds should not turn the process into something else, he warned. Therefore, a member chosen by either of the representative bodies, other than its head, might be a good compromise, he suggested.
Interview questions addressed towards a judicial candidate in order to determine their merit and temperament could prove challenging in terms of the possibility of straying into judicial ideology, the legal academic warned.
This should not be central to the process, he said. Interview questions should only be asked that would be considered relevant to all candidates, Dr Kenny added.
On the question of determining the suitability of a proposed judicial candidate, the Law Society commented that the JAC should carefully reflect on the range of skills it wished to consider when addressing the 鈥榤erit鈥 of an applicant for appointment.
Extensive European Commission work on judicial training and education in EU law must also be factored in.
In relation to the diversity particularly reflected in the solicitors鈥 branch of the legal profession, the Law Society proposed that a comparable approach to that adopted to enhance gender diversity in judicial appointments should be taken in order to increase the number of solicitors being appointed to the bench.
Similarly, removing the four-year threshold for appointing appropriately qualified legal academics to the JAC would provide greater diversity in eligible candidates for judicial appointments, President Cahill told the Committee on Justice.
Director General Mary Keane warned that the present requirement should be seen as a barrier to entry: 鈥淭he broadest range of legal professionals should be able to access consideration for appointment; therefore, the four-year requirement should be removed,鈥 she said.
鈥淭here is a particularly compelling argument for the appointment of academics to multi-judge courts, such as the Court of Appeal or the Supreme Court,鈥 she commented.
A mix of trial lawyers and academics would enrich the decision-making, and bring different perspectives.
The term 鈥榣egal academic鈥 needed to be defined, perhaps in alignment with what had been set out in the jurisdiction of England and Wales, Keane added.
On the question of application confidentiality, the Law Society advised caution, urging that the practice of submitting references, from sitting or previous members of the judiciary, should cease.
Senator Michael McDowell questioned why the judiciary should choose which member of the solicitors鈥 profession should have a function, if the professions were to have faith in the entire system.
Senator McDowell added that he found the whole proposed interviewing process for sitting judges 鈥減roblematical鈥, since sitting High Court judges were currently entitled to 鈥榓ct up鈥, and were eligible to serve on the Court of Appeal and the Supreme Court.
鈥淲hat is the purpose of an interview? What questions are going to be put to them? Is it purely to find out is the person pleasant, or to find out how they have functioned as a judge?鈥
Questions about the independence of the judiciary are 鈥渓urking in the back of my mind鈥, Senator McDowell said, specifically in terms of the questions that lay members might put to them.
The senator queried whether the Judicial Council was really a body corporate, if, as proposed, the membership and composition were to rotate.
Dr Kenny agreed that it was worth considering whether the 鈥榬otating鈥 member might have an effect on the group operating as a unit.
Senator McDowell added that, if there were several vacancies on the bench, the question then arose as to who the Judicial Council actually was, which was a systemic question.
鈥淗ead 9 is very strange in the way it approaches that,鈥 he said.